From Steve Wilkins

How come weve gone soft on crime and hard on motorists, if the police spent a bit less time harassing motorists they may find time to solve some real cases. When my car was stolen they turned up hours later ,never manage to find it, and showed total apathy for my situation, yet if I speed they are all over me like a rash.

From Nick

Sure they calm traffic...to the extent that when people see them,they slow to a crawl.This is a way to calm traffic? I think they are an easy way for the government to generate revenue.Fuel,tax and insurance are already high, so they add another one.

From Dean

They rant and rave on saying they stop accidents but answer me this. If you're driving along obeying the speed limit and you see a speed camera, what do you do? I'll tell you - you take your eyes OFF the road and check your speed. Everyone does it, its a natural reaction but when the man behind me told me that after he'd been to busy watching his speedo rather than the road, it puts a different spin on things.

From Jokester

What's got 4 legs and a c**t on its back? A police horse

From Assad

I think speed camera dont save lives ... they are just there to make money for the mega taxing govenment!

From

Speed cameras tick me off!! I can uderstand their use around crowded town centers, and I would welcome tighter speed limits in built up areas, but I also think that larger roads and motorways are much too slow. I would welcome more 20Mph limits around town, but only in exchange for faster roads out of town - motorway limits should be raised to 80 Mph, maybe even 90!!

From eric

on a trip from marple to ashbourne via macclesfield and leek I counted 22 cameras but only one flashed me hence £40.00 fine not funny yet another 3 points not funny its like a game of trying to spot the birdie in that little lens

From Harrison

I think that we are lucky in the UK. During a 3 hour drive on the M4 I didn't see a single speed camera of police car. I believe that the police know that the motorways in the UK are safe with drivers travelling at between 70 and 100 and let them be. In the US you can't drive for 3 miles on without seeing a police car - my only concern is that England doesn't go the same way. Get rid of speed cameras, they never have film in them and they must cause more crashes by people who don't know the road slamming on the breaks than they prevent.

From K Jones

Speed cameras dont slow people down in the long run, i my self drive fast toward them, then slow down to go past, then accelerate away. doesnt help does it?

From andy

why are they hiding them behind trees, signs, bridges, walls?

From william

I agree, speed cameras are needed in built up areas but not on motorways dual carriageways were pedestrians never cross (Or they shouldnt do) A survey carried out says people are less likely to speed at 40 than 30 as you actually feel your moving and getting somewhere. A cruising car is more fuel efficient and pollutes less than a car stuck in traffic jams, bottlenecks that are caused by traffic calming measures. And these parking bays they stick in towns, both sides so 1 car can just about squeeze by. The amount of fetched off wing mirrors I see! And bus lanes make an already congested problem worse. the amount of times I have overtaken a bus that constantly stops and starts.

From abdullah

ok, i agree with the speed restrictions, but why allow manufacuturers to build cars that do 140mph. government aswell as manufacutures are aiming to make money any way possibleby i)making high performance cars, with extra petrol cost, insurance, road tax etc, and ii)set up systems for speeding, not wearing seatbelts etc.

From Phil

Speed cameras are there to stop accidents! Not there to catch the motorist out!

From Steve

Just a way of making money !!! They are hidden behind trees, lamp posts and signs. If they were meant as a deterent they would be painted yellow and red and be sign writen with the words speed camera plastered all over them.

From andrew

Speed cameras trap 10,000 offenders A THREE-month trial of speed cameras in Chorley has trapped 10,000 law-breaking motorists. And the cameras, which were placed at local blackspots for the trial have now gone live. The 10,000 drivers caught during the trial period will not be prosecuted this time, but if they had been, the fines would have topped a staggering £400,000. The cameras went live on Monday to coincide with the launch of a National Kill Your Speed campaign. Anybody snapped by the cameras will receive written notification through the post, and providing they plead guilty, they will be fined £40 and have three points added to their driving licence. However, if the case is more serious or if the accused pleads not-guilty, the case will go to court. The cameras are placed at strategic points on Chorley Road, Higher Wheelton, Preston Road at Whittle-le-Woods, Bengal Street in Chorley and on Wigan Road in Euxton. Sgt Tonge, of Chorley Police said: "We hope to make drivers aware of the dangers of speeding, and the installation of the cameras will emphasise this. well sge tonge i wonder wether any of the 10,000 people speeding caused any damage or danger when doing so or if it will just help pay taxes to the government which in turn pays your wages. it is easy to catch a speeding motorist but i guess almost impossible to cath a criminal. POLICEING made easy

From andrew

No cash for village speed cameras SPEEDING taxi drivers and `idiots in souped-up Ford Fiestas' are putting villager's lives in danger, it has been claimed. But police have put the brakes on calls for speed cameras to be installed in Addingham, claiming there is no cash for such a scheme. At a recent meeting with PC Sheila Kirkham, of Ilkley Police, councillors said they were more worried than ever about the number of speeding cars racing through the village. And PC Kirkham admitted the police were struggling to crack down on the problem. She said: "It's particularly prevalent on Friday and Saturday evenings. We have no resources to put plain clothes observation vehicles out or to have cameras installed," she said. The police have, however, agreed to hold a speed survey in the village to try and gauge the extent of the problem. "andrew" I think this is a case for a speed camera. but i guess that the marketing into the volumes of traffic and potential income don't match the cost of installation. seems that you are only going to break the law and have to face the consequence if you and others do it together. this cannot be right!

From news

Looks like a potential legal loophole that had been exposed in road traffic legislation has been firmly sewn shut by a recent Privy Council ruling in the case of Margaret Brown (05/12/00). Prior to their ruling there had been lower court decisions in both Scotland and England, which indicated that asking drivers to confirm whether they were the driver of the car at the time of an offence was contrary to Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights, and was therefore illegal. Without such evidence many speed camera prosecutions would simply fail as the driver could not be established. However the five law lords, sitting as the Privy Council, which is now the final court of appeal on devolution cases from Scotland, have now ruled that such evidence is admissible, as the driver's right to a fair trial and privacy has to be balanced with the right to safety of the wider community. The decision is binding on both the courts in England and Scotland.

From tony

c/o the bbc The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents has welcomed news that a pilot scheme to allow police forces to buy more speed cameras is saving lives. But John Howard, RoSPA Director of Safety Policy, said any extra cameras should be concentrated in areas where there was a known accident problem. "We want to see cameras used to improve the driving culture in relation to speeding in the UK," John Howard said. "The ‘blanket bomb’ approach is unlikely to win the support of the driver. "Cameras should be installed on roads where there is a poor accident record. In that way they are likely to have the backing of the local community and are less likely to alienate motorists. "Speed is said to be a factor in about a third of road accidents, and therefore plays a part in more than 1,000 deaths in Great Britain each year. We have to help motorists to understand that they should drive at the appropriate speed for the conditions at the time - which will often be much lower than the speed limit." Eight police forces have been taking part in a trial which allows fines to be spent on maintaining and buying new cameras instead of the revenue being passed to the Treasury. In one of the areas, Northamptonshire, road deaths are reported to have been reduced by 28 per cent since cameras were introduced.

From Jas

Speed cameras are a load of B***ocks. Just think, that we can all get nicked for doing 80 MPH in a straight line on a motorway, yet not get fined / points for doing 30 MPH past a busy school at 3:30 PM in a built up area. Now ask yourself, which is the more dangerous?.

From Ste J

As a Nova toting driver with the big exhaust etc... I could be expected to be against speed cameras. Fudamentally this is not the case at all, I think they are an excellent idea. What this government has done however is to totally abuse the moral issues associated with speeding and speed cameras, and as stated the percentage of speed related accidents is very low. Roadside furnishings are most often painted grey as it is the least obtrusive colour and least likely to attract the drivers attention - oh, speed cameras appear to be grey as well. The Dutch system is far better with the bright colours and prior warning signs which are actually genuine as opposed to the thousands of pounds wasted on scare signs here with piccies of cameras on em and not so much as a sniff of a camera. As I said before, they are a top idea in the appropriate place but the original concept of slowing people down is totally lost when the cameras are hidden. It doesn't stop you barrel arsing through that small village there and then when you're doing it if the first you know is a bill dropping through your door 2 weeks later - you wont do it again at that location but at the time your speed has not been decreased, wiping out any argument of slowing you down. Get a (legal) radar detector, use it in the middle of nowhere and drive fast where the only person to injure is yourself and stay slow in the cities - it makes sense

From Tyler Durden

I don't think they should have speed cameras at all. They should have had a national vote of all the motorists in the country before they put them up. If they do put them up they should be visible and not as a source for revenue. I am sure the government would be able to find alternate sources of revenue if they just sat down and actually thought about it.

From Graham

Don't you dare critisize this government. After all you voted for the morons. You deserve all you get. You had your chance to get shut but no you voted overwhelmingly for them and then complain because of what they are doing. You sad sad people.

From AL

Speed Cameras are a waste of time. It just makes motorists look out of their windows to try and spot them and the rozzers, taking their attention away from the road and traffic ahead.

From peter cargill

I fully concur with your views that speed cameras are primarily being used for raising revenue, I have nothing against using them in residential areas where children play and pedestrians are about but I fail to see how they can be considered neccesary on wide open motorways and other high speed roads. The trouble is, what do we do about them, I favour starting a campaign to systematically destroy them wherever they are positioned in open countryside, a sort of military action. email me with ideas at petercargill@aol.com

From Dave

None of us like to get caught speeding, traffic cops alike of which I am one, and have been! However, having attended and dealt with the aftermath of all too many fatal and serious injury road crash's you have to shake yourself and take a reality check. Cameras are a royal pain in the back side and I have to admit agreeing with a percentage of structured arguments put across by the motoring public. The difficulty facing the legislative bodies is a complex one. Driver attitudinal behaviour set up by pressures of work, home life, under funding, poor sales returns, noisy children etc etc, all give rise to "us" the drivers not paying sufficient attention to what is without doubt one of the single most difficult tasks undertaken daily. Lack of attention combined with lack of road discipline, poor anticipation and a negative attitude which we can all be guilty of, contributes to bad driving behaviour. When is the last time you let someone cut in in front of you? probably much longer than the last time you flew the bird or used the horn! Speed cameras make you slow down, so do I when I am at work. As I know all too well, and am guilty of, when you pass by you speed up. We're all human, (some more than others) I would be interested in seeing the revenue raised from static points, pre-fed and conditional offers used for better education, advanced driving courses and skid control. Having spent over 11 weeks under advanced driver training I know all too well how difficult it is to drive safely, smoothly, progressively and well. I also know how the basic driving test does not prepare you for modern driving. Travelling at 5 mph is dangerous when inappropriate. We, as the motoring public need to push for more education, better training and craft more professional, co-operative use of the road space. I enjoy traffic as it makes a positive contribution to our well-being. And of a rather humerous note, most criminals are caught by traffic police than any other specialism. Be safe.

From Brian Moss

Anything that can be used to slow down the uncaring driver (speeding in most cases) should be used if you do not want to be caught speeding - do not speed. Usually the driver who speeds past me at the traffic lights/roundabout on the west of town, is only a second or so ahead of me 5-6 miles on the other side of town

From Joe Public

I welcome all traffic calmin measure that save lives, if motorists would just stick to the speed limits then the government would not need to install cameras. Although, I think that the revenue created by cameras should go to the cost of safety measures on the road and medical healthcare for those injured in road accidents.

From Never Convicted

This is what to do 1. Deny the vehicle is yours, the ONLY evidence is a picture of a number plate that can be brought in any shop (unless your vehicle is VERY rare). There are thousands of stolen vehicles on the road with the wrong number plate showing (noone can prove that someone else is not using your number plate). There are thousands of anti-gatso number plates on vehicles, use a number plate from another vehicle like yours, this is good if you do not like someone and if you get stopped "Oh officer I did'nt know" and he can give you a £40 Non endorsable ticket for failing to display the correct VRM (Scaaaared). When asked who the driver was say 1. I cannot remember whether it was me or my wife/friend or whatever and let them sort it out. 2. It was an illegal immigrant awaiting his status that I felt sorry for, make up a name, they do. Do not accept the ticket, let them take you to Court (but do not argue about the whether the Gatso was working correctly, accept that. Ask for full disclosure of all the evidence, they have to supply photos of every vehicle on the roll, examine the roll and normally you will see a Police car going through this Gatso at an incredible speed. Plice officers have the same reaction time as everyone else and the same laws of physics apply to them i.e. stopping distances, how can you be convicted for doing 45mph through a speed camera in a known dangerous acciednt spot (Home Office instructions) when they are doing 75mph+ at the same location. The lay Magistrates may convict you, appeal and when you get in front of someong who knows the law your appeal will be allowed. You will only have problems if the Gatso camera includes a picture of your face and you can be identified. There are thousands of ways to never get convicted, these are just a few ways (I keep the best for myself :)). Fight it, never admit it and MAKE them prove it (but always be very polite and nice) No Points Truckster

From Phil Humphries

cameras seem to be popping up everywhere, and with the introduction of digital cameras it seems like the police have just found a licence to print money. i would prefer better road markings and signs indicating areas/sections of road which are/can be dangerous to the driver and/or other road users.. granted cameras in 30mph limits around schools etc, but on main roads and motorways is scandalous.

From Nick Read

Speed cameras on the A1 have actually created more of an accident risk. Everyone seems to travel at approx 80-90 mph, then slam on their brakes and slow to about 60 mph whenever they see a camera !

From Nico Pancheri

Speed does'nt kill, incompetence kills. Most people i have seen sticking dead on the speed limit seem more interested in what is happening in the surrounding scenery, not the road ahead.

From Si

Look out for the new SVDD system that tracks you over a set distance. Each camera feeds an image of your vehicle to a computer that automatically extracts your reg. It takes a note of the time at each camera point and if your average speed between them is above a certain level you can expect to hear from the boys downtown. Those are the dark blue cameras you see with little aerials on 'em. No flash, no radar and operates 24hrs.

From Graham Geraghty

I think that if you are obeying the rules of the road, then you will never have anything to worry about. A young boy was killed when he was hit by a van doing 35mph near my home (30mph limit). Would the child have survived if the van had been doing 5mph less? I do admit that speeding on motorways and non-residential areas is not too bad but 30mph in resedential areas is still too high. I may sound like a moany old man but I am 22 and I feel that by taking your time you get there almost as quickly with much less chance of killing yourself or somebody else unless some gobsh*te rams you from behind doing 50 in a 30 zone.

From kid rock

there's one on bayswater road without a speed limit on the road, and no camera sign

From Daniel

The cameras were a good idea to begin with, placed in accident spots but now they are everywhere including motorways and lets face it if you crash at 70 or 100 the results are much the same, and if someone lets there children play on a motorway or main road well that speaks for its-self. The day-glo idea is the best so far as they are supposed to be a deterrent and how can they do that if you can't see them.

From ashley noades

to stop killing children

From Jason Woolf (Jason.Woolf@virgin.net)

I think speed cameras really are just about increasing revenue - lets face it if they wanted to reduce accidents we could have speed limiters fitted to cars the same way they are fitted to lorries and with the technology we have today we could make the speed limiters more intelligent by sending signals to them. So for example when you enter a motorway, a signal could be sent to your limiter adjusting it to 70mph or when driving past a school at 8:45am your limiter could be set at 20mph - using this technology could also reduce motorway pile ups as signals could be sent to slow down vehicles approaching a section of motorway where the weather is bad or an accident has already occurred. When you think how we could use technology to get to the root of a problem it would appear that either there is no logical thinking going on with the powers that be or just a desire to increase income which probably results in a few brown envelope payments somewhere along the line!

From Ian

I read the comment by Dave, and I agree with the fact that the driving test is not a test, it is licence aquisition. You only learn to drive on your own. I thought myself, I was a good driver, I hold my National rally licence, and co-drive an Escort Cosworth (ex Ford WRC, Armin Shwartz), incase you know the car! I recently undertook Military Driving course, in which I gained my Class 1 HGV. BUT, Before we left, we were asked if we wanted to do another three weeks off advanced driver training. In am 29, and drive a powerful car, I thought i was a good driver, UNTIL my lessons started. I realised how "normal" a driver I had been, Whenever I drive now, I am more alert and more confident in my skills behind the wheel. All you reps out there, if i was in an unmarked police car, i would have a damn good day out. Drive a 44 ton Articulated vehicle, on a motorway, then you will appreciate what a "Professional driver" has to put up with every day. As to myself, I am quite happy to do 140mph+ down a single track lane, flat out, in the co-drivers' seat, reading my map!....

From Gary

Speed cameras are a big pyramid scam. The more there are, the more they earn, the more new ones they install. Soon drivers will be watching their speedo more than the road. Then, car manufacturers will provide a system to automatically control the cars speed when you turn it on. Soon, these will be compulsory and you won't be able to turn them off. After that, they will come up with a system that steer for you too. The technology exists. Be very afraid

From Tony

Cameras catch a tiny fraction of speeders when you compare journeys travelled against drivers caught. Most caught aren't anywhere close to the lower limit. If you don't want to get caught just slow down. Simple! At least the ones getting caught are the ones paying for more cameras instead of the comunity as a whole who just suffer the consequences in real terms. They are the usual losers in human and financial terms.

From

statistics show that if you can reduce speed to zero Mph then accidents drop to almost zero per annum, but that defeats the object! A similar effect occurs if children and adults do not stand on the road . Cameras are not the answer, they cause drivers agravation .I am 53yrs old drive daily and consider myself lucky to have a clean license .

From martin

statistics show that if you can reduce speed to zero Mph then accidents drop to almost zero per annum, but that defeats the object! A similar effect occurs if children and adults do not stand on the road . Cameras are not the answer, they cause drivers agravation .I am 53yrs old drive daily and consider myself lucky to have a clean license .

From Assad Sarwar

Speed Cameras are just out there to make money out of the motorist. Yes I agree that speed cameras do save lives.

From Chris

Speed cameras should only be employed at accident blackspots, in villages, towns and near schools. This is to prevent pedestrians from become part of a car! This in itself is one of the major problems that has failed to be recognised---the lack of road safety education for the pedestrian! How many times have we had to lock-up our wheel to avoid children that are playing "chicken" and "dare" in Britains roads? Not to mention the hapless idiots that don`t even bother to look! It works both ways, just as you aim to preserve your life and vehicle, pedestrians ought to do the same....its only common sense! What really enrages me about the plans to introduce more speed cameras, is that the motorist already has to face higher insurance premiums (Uninsured drivers--surely a higher priority) higher road tax...and not to mention a petrol price that reflects the price of finest malt whiskey! But one thing that the government forgets--26 million drivers is alot of votes, not to mention the 80 -odd % tax on fuel, oh and car tax (because car tax actually gets used on road repairs?) This all adds up to alot of government spending money! As for accident blackspots...They are only there due to poor road design. Take the A45 Ryton junction, a point where a single carriageway crosses a dual carriageway, I`ve lost count of the number of deaths and injuries at this spot, (although plans to put in a rounabout are underway) There are several Gatso cameras there, and They are doing a fantastic job,not only have speeds dropped but so have the amount of accidents. So in short I hope this will help other like-minded motorists to put their views forward and stop the rip-off that is rip-off Britain.

From Rob Owen

Speeding- Yes it is dangerous and can cost lives, so should we be monitoring our speed... YES! However, with the introduction of speed cameras not only does driving feel like Big Brother but its also makes the law seem corrupt. I mean, if you were to walk into a shop and steal something, as long as it was your first time of course, you would probably get away with a slap on the rist (again unless it was the crown jewels or something!). However, first time or not, if you are caught going a meer 6-10 mph over the speed limit, you could be facing a heavy fine and maybe a few points on your licence. Does this seem fair?? Law asks for a guilt act and a guilt mind for you to be in breach of the law, speeding maybe a guilty act but as for the mind... surely the shoplifter would be a great deal more guilty than the motorist?? Obviously not!! WELL DONE TO THE ENGLISH LEGAL SYSTEM FOR BEING SO UNBALANCED -against our favour as always!!

From Andy

Note on the dayglo paint and high visibility placement 1) its only for new camera's the old ones will stay hidden 2) its only a recommendation not a mandate. 3) forces useing mobile devices can still place them anywhere they want. 4) They police will not have to publish the tresholds and the threshold can be chosen locally so 33 might get you booked in lancs, but 38 might escape in chesire, how fair is that. remember all the promises made when speed cameras were new, they would only be used to reduce accidents on blackspots.??? Of more interest is that speed cameras are being used to replace traffic police men. of course cameras cant differentiate between a car diligently driven at 35mph down a deserted lane. and a car driven by a drunk weaving past a school at 29mph. one gets booked one doesnt, what we need are flexible limits, 80 plus on empty motorways, 50 or less in bad conditions, 20 past schools 8 till 5, 30mph 5.01 till 7.59 the speed limits are archaic and contradictory.

From Big Jim

If speed kills how come all the train operators are planning new high speed services, and how come our slow old things keep crashing.

From Nigel

If speed cameras are to be used for revenue generation, then it would seem sensible to remove the penalty of 3 points on the licence. Otherwise major revenue generators will be banned and not contribute the revenue, thereby negating the whole purpose of the exercise. Does speed kill? Absolutely not. It is the impact with something - a vehicle in this case - which kills. Thus, reducing the impact (in this case by reducing the speed) will assist in the reduction of death and injury. The point at issue is really the consideration (or lack of it) that a relatively small minority of drivers seem to display. For example, driving up a narrow, street at 50 mph when people are likely to walk out between parked cars is potentially murderous, as it hurtling by a school when they are turning out - a camera is unlikely to stop this sort of behaviour given the current placement. Traffic calming measures are introduced to catch the stupid minority, those who cannot distinguish between a safe area to drive fast and an area where it is potentially and actually dangerous - as other contributors have written, 30 mph is often too fast. However, cameras are not positioned to resolve this situation they are positioned to generate revenue and that is wrong. They need to be highly visible and placed where they can achieve what was their original, intended purpose - reducing accidents, death and injury.

From Richard Dixon

I am firmly of the view that speed is a major causation factor in accidents. TRL 421 shows that a small increase in speed leads to a significantly higher number of accidents. These findings were validated by the results of pilot projects in eight areas which showed that the visible presence of cameras led to 35% fewer accidents.

From Mike Hunt

Who are you working for Richard Dixon and how much are they paying you????

From Hugh Jass

Where did you get that name from Mike!! bit unfortunate isnt it?? KILL SPEED KILL SPEED KILL SPEED

From Tim

Check out your name Hugh!! Speed is dangerous, care is needed, why do we have such powerful cars?? Maybe we should all be driving Ford KA's!!

From Colin McRae

Dont be dissing the Ford KA now, if they offered it to me, Id give us my Focus in a shot to be seen in one of those babes!!

From vince

they are traps to catch us all out

From Mr D. Dyckes

I am sickened by the government and their blatant disregard for UK motorists. Initially speed cameras were a good idea, placed in accident black spots to slow down cars and potentially save lives. Now they have shown the £ sign to the already greedy UK government that hides behind its statements of “…To save the environment” ….”To reduce the amount of accidents”….. when in fact it's to generate more revenue that they can waste on things such as the Millennium Dome. Where I live there is a speed camera situated behind a road sign so you only know about it after you’ve passed it and this is on a long main, almost straight road in the middle of nowhere…..no housing estates, no pedestrians, easy line of sight on the road ahead. That camera is there to do nothing more than generate money and indeed I understand it will have to be moved with the new policies over speed cameras being visible. So why was it placed there in the first place – actions speak louder than words and this tells the real story behind speed cameras, with incidences of camera usage like this why should we trust the government. So now as revenue can be kept suddenly the amount of cameras are due to be doubled across the uk…..can’t think why??…we already have seen instances of miss-appropriation of funds channelled into other areas than those they were supposed to be used for. This government can bleed the motorist dry but sooner or later it will suffer as a result of its disregard, already there have been number of attacks on speed cameras and I can see why, the government may think we are all stupid and maybe we are for voting them in but its obvious not all cameras are there to save lives. If they spent money on real road safety instead of on devices that generate a healthy profit for them then maybe we would see a real reduction in deaths and accidents. Why not just stick to penalty points on licenses if they are that concerned with ways to penalise motorists that speed and use taxes to pay for the cost of the camera.

From ANDY

speed cameras save pedestrian lives by cutting impact speed, fine cant argue with that! but why so many cameras on motorways and dual carriage ways, there are no pedestrians there, get the cameras off the motorways and next to the schools and into back streets instead.

From billy k

The other day I ran over a small child whilst going through a speed trap, because I was staring at my speedo. No, not really, but it did almost happen...

From Polly

Richard Dixon's statistic of 35% less deaths/whatever on XX road due to newly installed cameras is probably completely accurate as it stands. What's effectively happened is that traffic has been pushed onto alternative routes by the slowing of traffic and the risk of points/fine. The number of death/accidents per motorist mile along here is probably the same! In Essex where there are loads of cameras l heard that the number of accidents has bounced back from a one year low when the cameras were introduced and the number of fatalities had already exceeded last years total and we still have 3 months of bad weather to go. This is despite the local police chiefs/accountants saying what life saving measures these cameras are...etc

From Crispian Pearce

Speeding is illegal whichever way you look at it, however, the cameras just make for hasty braking and after-the-fact safety as well as local drivers speeding in between them. Revenue earners they are ... but they in no way make the roads safer ... Many a time I've seen a near accident as a car in front slams on the brakes in order to avoid a hefty fine/ban because of late detection of a camera. It would be better to re-test drivers regularly, as it's rarely just the speed that kills - driver awareness and concentration are more deterministic factors. The driving test does not encourage good driving, just a concentrated effort to 'jump through hoops' because it costs so much and driving is so important to many people.

From Blodwin

The fact is speed itself does not kill, however driving irresponsibly and recklessly does. How many accidents have you seen on the motorway where two, three, four... idiotic motorists have ploughed into the back of each other? Tell, me what caused that? I guarantee they were probably only doing 70, but they weren't keeping a decent stopping distance between the car in front, it's such a classic accident. This can happen in the slow lane or when people are crawling along in traffic jams, so how can a speed camera prevent this? Perhaps rather than just sucking peoples cash from their pockets the government should consider "re-educating" a few people on how to drive. The fact is the majority of drivers are competent enough to be able to judge the speed at which they should be travelling at to suit the driving conditions. In a busy town centre your not likely to zoom about at lightspeed. The same town centre at 4.00am on Sunday morning?

From fast driver

IF the government wants to stop speeding in "dangerous" areas then put up cameras around every school in britain NOT on open motorways!

From Mr Roberts

Speed cameras are NOT a means of slowing drivers down or saving lives - just to get the government a lot more of taxpayers hard-earned. If we are to be destined with the horrors of the roadside, at least make them SEEN to EVERYONE, don't bloody HIDE them behind trees! Make them stand out - paint them NEON ORANGE! with black and yellow stripes on the sides! That way, they would be a worthwhile idea. I am pretty sure that 99% of the UK population would agree with me on this point.

From Andy

Its not the speed that kill it the idiot behind the wheel who cannot control or drive the car.

From Mr Obvious

Just to point out the obvious, its not the speed that kills at all but the impact!

From

From Andy

To Mr So Called Obvious the impact would not kill if the driver behind the wheel was more experienced. Not much hope of that with Idiots driving car these days.

From Gibbs

it is obviouse they are to claim money... mainly because up untill very recently the camera's where mainly hidden so drivers could not see them! how is that gonna make em slow down in the black spots? if they stand out with signs saying they are there then they wont speed. simple but they hide them to catch people out and make ALOT more money!

From p*ssed off!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - don’t believe the propaganda put out by the Government and the Police about speed cameras saving lives and all that crap! Speed cameras make MONEY and that is the bottom line. If the powers that be, were even remotely interested in cutting the speed of vehicles then placing SPEED HUMPS in the roads concerned would do the job with NO EXCEPTIONS, Ambulances, Fire engines and Police can all use the other side of the road with virtually no delay. Also if you were to compare the cost of some tarmac (used to make the humps) to the cost of a single camera you would see my point very clearly, but how can you make money from a lump of tarmac? Incidentally while all of these cameras are flashing away at the demon speeders (and you pro camera crew are whooping it up) ask yourself this question, what about the DRUNK driver who passes the camera at precisely 29 mph either by good luck or by design, he not only has got away with speeding up to and then after the camera but also drunk driving! but that’s ok apparently(no need for police officers with all these cameras around). Speed cameras are not the answer and never could be as the initial idea is fundamentally flawed, human greed was never taken into the equation!

From Barney

Speed Cameras are fair enuf near schools but not on faster roads

From Michelle

I believe speed cameras are definitely traps to catch the unwary motorist, especially in light of the fluorescent Dutch cameras! The way I see it, if you're a responsible and alert driver, you take in what's ahead of you regardless of the speed you're travelling at (within reason!) Perhaps funds would be better spent in educating people to improve on their driving skills, in reference to their awareness of what's going on around them rather than just looking at the rear bumper infront of them! We so often hear the phrases; "I didn't see him!" and "She came from no-where!" If people were more alert on the roads and aware of what's going on around them rather than concentrating on what song's playing on the radio I believe we would have far less road accidents; and people like myself who wish to get from A to B without having to crawl there at 30mph could then stop being held scapegoat for others.

From Chris Wallace

Come on lets be reasonable!! Just have them in accident black spots and give the driver plenty of warning that they are there.

From Martin j

Certainly are a trap. Speed does kill and little boy racers are a problem but the government use speed camers both fixed and the hand held police cameras as an easy way of removing more cash from the average motorist. Deterents are what are needed hiding speed cameras behind trees serves no purpose but to infuriate motorists

From Ed The Duck

Does anyone else find that when they see a speed camera sign they concentrate harder on finding the camera than on the road itself? And the number of people who attempt an emergency stop when they see a camera is more likely to cause an accident than prevent one.

From Easy OFF

Never ever admit it, dont send off your licence or money. Deny it first, make them work, it costs you nothing, costs them lots and makes a mockery of them trying to make a quick buck out of you. If its a fixed camera check it, does it have a picture of the back of your head ????. Ask to see the picture, if its obviously you , then fair cop, if its unclear make them prove it. Innocent until proven guilty, its up to them to prove you were driving, Dont give them a free lump of cash. If every one who received a ticket from a camera, denied it the whole system would go into melt down.

From E. Cavanagh

I love speed cameras. They're efficient enforcement, save tax money and free up cops to deal with other problems. If you really don't think speeding is a problem, you need to check your facts about the dangers of speeding- and maybe take a refresher course in physics.

From Victim

I got caught doing 166.8 mph in a 40 limit, on my motorbike, i was racing a car, sure showed him! however im band :(

From John Plumb

Your opening line "Speed Kills". Speed does'nt kill, it's the sudden stop that does it. But if you keep to the limit it's no big deal.

From CODRINGTON

From Brian

1)Should speed cameras be placed in clearly visible places and painted in bright colours. YES 2)Do appropriately placed cameras reduce traffic light jumping and speeds in places where speed has been shown to cause accidents. YES 3) Are speed cameras a way to raise revenue. YES 4) Should people "done" for speeding past clearly visible speed cameras realise that "it's a fair cop". YES

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From ANDY WHYMARK

HI, I'VE BEEN USING THE ROADS FOR A MERE 2 YEARS NOW, HOWEVER IN THAT TIME I'VE SPOTTED NUMBEROUS "HIDDEN CAMERAS" IN AREAS THAT ARE NOT AROUND CHILDREN AND NOT BLACK SPOTS ....INFACT THEY ARE ON STRAIGHT OPEN ROADS WITH BUSHES (WHICH ARE USED TO HIDE THEM) ..I VOTE FOR LARGE STICKERS TO BE ISSUED TO EVERY HOUSEHOLD AND FOR PEOPLE TO COVER THE CAMERA LENSES, OR TO PUT RUDE PICTURES ON THE FRONT. YOURS HOPEFULLY ANDY - MILTON KEYNES

From Graham Tombling

The police should not be able to set up hidden traps i.e. in vans or (as i saw the other day)inside a bus stop with both officers hidden around the corner in a vectra v6. If they want to reduce speeding they should be more visable and the law also needs clarifiying as to how critical the camera should be, as a few people i know have been fined and endorsed because the police camera said they are doing(example) '31.2m.p.h.' which is rediculous as the motorists car could be out of callibration on the speedo. Being an engineer working to ISO 9000 there is no way the motorist could know exactly what speed they are doing. In my opinion speed traps are an easy revenue for the police and easy prey.

From Len Leaper

Speed cameras are not designed to increase safety, they serve to force the driver into defensive tactics in order to avoid a fine. If cameras are high profile or if drivers are aware of placements, the effect is to slow down just for the camera, and then speed up, leading to bunching. Some roads have signs and no cameras, or inoperative cameras, and the locals get to know and speed past..these same local people get very frustrated when behind drivers unfamiliar with the non operative cameras and often tailgate, flash lights and overtake taking risks. Not condusive to safety by any stretch of the imagination. Our planners also try to intoduce slowing measures by siting signs and introducing junction layouts that force drivers to slow heavily because of visibility poblems, the sign obstructs a clear view and so on! This leads to accidents when the traffic instead of flowing, is forced into sudden and unexpected speed fluctuations. Cameras are a means to raise cash and safety is not a consideration.

From Phil

I can understand when they put a speed camera near a school or hospital or basically in a built up area but not on a motorway. If you go 100mph you deserve a fine but not at 80mph. Near us there is a speed camera hidden behind a motorway stantion on a dead straight piece of motorway.

From Renault Warrior

That ad on TV says that the extra 5 mph over 30mph increases stopping distance by 21feet. I've tested this with ABS and it doesn't even take 21feet for me to stop from 35mph!!!

From gareth burgess

SPEED KILLS! No it doesn't, bad drivers/driving does, and pedestrians who just walk out in front of you, what ever happened to the green cross code, STOP LOOK LISTEN, arse! WALK THUD SUE, speed cameras are to stop people speeding in built up areas, and accident blackspots. The only people who hate them are the people who were speeding. I've never been flashed because I know when not to drive like a lunatic. And yes the revenue should go back to the police force, not the government. The Police get all the stick, but dont get any backing. Keep Cameras, get rid of speeders!!! (And people who dont indicate, that really ticks me off) BYE

From Richard

I agree that speed must be controlled. The cameras use stealth to catch the unwary who may be accidentally speeding and do not take into condsideration time and road conditions etc. The biggest concern I have apart from the unfairness of these devices is the blinding effect of the flashes that render one blind for at least 25 M ... a hazard in itself. Yes they are a good revenue earner. I like the Spanish system ... after all it has the desired effect of slowing drivers down.

From stefan wiechmann

we are the most watched nation in the western world,if not the world.this nation is bristling with camera systems.abuse is rife.we have no say as to is on film.....where will it end...

From Chris

They shud paint Speed camera's in glow-in-the-dark colours, so as to make them more obvious

From E Severn

Nothing to do with road safety and everything to do with revenue.

From BB

TAX AGAINST THE LAW ABIDING PUBLIC. SPEEDING IS NOT A CRIMINAL OFFENCE! A MOBILE DIGITAL CAMERA WILL CATCH BETWEEN 40 TO 80 SPEEDERS A DAY. ADD UP THE REVENUE..THEY ARE SET AT JUST 8 MILES AN HOUR ABOVE THE SPEED LIMIT. BEFORE POLICE GOT A PORTION OF THE MONEY MOST FORCES DIDNT PROSECUTE UNTILL YOU WERE 10 OR 12 MPH ABOVE THE LIMIT. IF YOU ARE A THIEF SPEEDING AWAY FROM THE SCENE OF YOUR CRIME IN YOUR STOLEN OR UNREGISTERED /UN INSURED CAR YOU CAN DRIVE PAST THE OFFICER STOOD WITH THE CAMERA AND HE WILL NOT STOP YOU. SO ONLY THE GENERALLY LAW ABIDING WILL BE FINED. AND THOSE WHO FLOUT THE LAW BY DRIVING IN UNISURED AND UNREGISTERED CARS GET AWAY WITH IT AS THE TRAFFIC POLICE NO LONGER STOP AND GIVE YOU A TICKET OR WARNING AND ACTUALLY SPEAK TO THE DRIVER. WHEN THE IMMAGES ARE TAKEN OFF THE CAMERA IF THE CAR IS NOT REGISTERED TO ANYONE IT WILL NOT BE INVESTIGATED AS IT IS NOT COST EFFECTIVE. IF YOU LACK STANDARDS ...DONT REGISTER YOU CAR,DRIVE IT WITHOUT INSURANCE AND TAX.IF CAUGHT DENY EVERYTHING AND GET A SOLICITOR (CRIMINAL IN A SUIT)ON LEGAL AID PAID FOR BY THE TAX PAYER TO REPRESENT YOU........ AND THE LAW WILL PROTECT YOU.

From Gonzales

What speed camera?

From mark hodgekiss

what a load of nonsense,i think they should be scraped.a bad idea

From andy

Whats more dangerous? A car travelling at 40 mph in a 30 zone, or a pedestrian crossing a road, having acknowledged a car coming towards him/her at speed? Answer: Pedestrian.Why? having seen the car, decided to cross REGARDLESS of possible consequence. The car driver is not responsible for anyone else except him/her self, and his/her car. Can a speed camera teach a pedestrian road sense? no.-couldnt teach a cyclist either. What is my point? speed is not the only factor to be looked at when talking about road safety- the mentality (or complete stupidity) of pedestrians should be taken into account (and tested), and some cyclists too. they could tax them instead of taking it all out on the motorist.(stupid tax maybe??) how about these safety slogans: "Save your self- dont step in front of an oncoming vehicle" "Watch your child, dont listen to other parents conversation on the way home" or for drivers: "Mirror Indicate Manouver" (opposed to "sh*t i need to take that right turn....crunch"). "excessive braking can cause the car behind to go into the back of you" "give way to the right on roundabouts" Cameras are a waste of time while we have idiots trying to cross roads, and other motorists not driving safely- they dont have to break the speed limit for that! one u turn in the wrong place can do that Im sure.

From dave

do speed cameras help? in my experiance what everyone does is slam their brakes on so they do 10 mph under speed limit just til their far enough away not to get flashed. how then does this benefit people?

From Rich

How can 'unseen' cameras be a detterent? They should be TOTALLY visible if this is their aim, or the goverment should come clean and admit they are a tax!!

From anonymous

they are a complete waste of the tax payers money. same as police cars hiding behind walls and parked vehicles to try and trap you with a radar gun.

From mark b

The bottom line is speed cameras MAKE MONEY by abusing the "safty" issue that speed kills...Bad driving kills and another point vehicle speeds have dropped not because of cameras but the congested roads we all endure every morning we go to work, infusing frustration and anger as average times it takes to complete a simple journey get longer.. I am thinking of buying a milk float ..it would be no slower!!!

From mark b

Time to predict the future of speed and technology.. the year 2010 your new car has all the creature comforts you require along with mobile phone, gps tracking system,DVD player etc.You are inadvertantly doing 22mph in a 20mph zone when your on board 15 GHZ PC alerts you it has detected that you have activated the GPS rangefinding speed snoop satillite system (SSSS)miles up in the sky Instantly your speed is automatically reduced to the requied safe speed and you are informed by an on screen display unit that your fine is 5000 euros "please insert your smart card into the reader to make payment and recive your penalty points or your vehicle will be disabled at the end of your journey" This senario sounds far fetched but even now the thin end of the wedge is there .If you own a registed mobile phone (and who doesn't!!)it is possible to be tracked where ever you go..and the same applies to new cars with GPS sound good!if you loose your car it can be pinpointed to within a few feet.. but so can you ..BIG BROTHER IS DEFINATLY WATCHING YOU

From amw

Burn them all

From colin goddard

i believe its just another way of getting money from the british public to support the countries growing imigrant problem.

From Ed

There are a many speed cameras which make no difference whatsoever to road safety. The reason for the majority of accidents is lack of concentration, tired drivers or drunk drivers. I drive a high mileage each year and the number of people who don't indicate or cut me up is incredible. These are the people who the goverment should looking at. Theres no reason that on a dual carriageway or motorway which isnt busy for speeds of 80 or 90 to done safely.

From KW

I am an ex Police Patrol driver and advanced driver and can only say that those who moan at speed cameras are drivers who have either been caught by one or afraid of being caught. The answer is very simple, drive within the law.

From Race Champion

What do we think of KW's comment "am an ex Police Patrol driver and advanced driver and can only say that those who moan at speed cameras are drivers who have either been caught by one or afraid of being caught. The answer is very simple, drive within the law". There are too many laws in this nanny state, its impossible to follow all of them, this brings laws into disrepute and dilutes respect for the important ones. Its the same problem with numerous cameras in the wrong places - distraction from driving and dishonest claims that its just for safety, when its really revenue earning. Put average speed cameras along school roads, mark the area clearly and take them away from open dual carriageways. And change the motorways to a max of 85 and a minimum of 50.

From KW

In answer to "Race Champion" I see no relation to being a racing circuit champion to being a safe driver on the public highway. I have no doubt that he is a very competant driver and did not disagree with my views. Raising the speed limit on motorways would have no effect on safety as whatever speed limit is set there will always be the person who has to exceed it and the higher the speed the more likelyhood of an accident as the average motorist has not been trained to drive at high speed. Many think to be able to drive fast is the mark of a good driver, with the inadequate training which many do not think they need or would not measure up if they were to take such training can only result in more innocent people being killed. I say, increase the amount of cameras, but also increase the penalty, no fixed fine just double the point system, what would they mump about then when caught not being able to accuse the authorities of placing cameras purely for revenue.

From Steve Barnes

Speed cameras are just a revenue tool for local councils and police forces. My local council has painted cameras the same colour as their surrondings, hidden them behind bus stops and signs and even gone as far as putting them in the backs of vans (often parked illegaly) to catch speeders on country lanes and duel carriagways. The Police are also guilty of this.

From Andy Cole

It's difficult to get away from the fact that too many people drive too fast where they shouldn't (i.e. built-up areas) & as long as that's the case, cameras will be placed seemingly indiscriminately to deal with a perceived habit of speeding. If you can't be wary of your speed then pay the fine! I had to & now exercise just a little more wariness regardingstatic as well as hand-held cameras. There's a revenue benefit & there's a small safety benefit - I don't think it's going to be reversed somehow...

From AL CAPONE

DONT DRINK AND DRIVE SMOKE COKE AND FLY

From Tony Stimpson

My job takes me all over the U.K in my van.I think most cameras are there to collect revenue.A typical example are cameras on the A1 between Newcastle and Edinburgh where there is nothing but fields and sheep.

From lila

why was the traffic camera invented

From paul

the real issue and debate we should have is whether we should follow speed limits at all. If the defined limit on a road is (say) 30mph, then either one should drive at, or below, that speed - or take the consequences. I'm all for a debate on speed limits; why can't I drive a 50 or 60 mph on an urban road on a Sunday afternoon, for goodness sake? Why should _I_ be penalised just because some stupid child wants to cycle home, or a stupid pedestrian wants to cross the road? Speed limits are a curse on our freedom and right of expression. Speed cameras are a symptom of that curse. If they really wanted us to drive at a 'safe' (whatever that is) speed in a residential area, then they'd have multiple cameras along a road so that there's no space to get a decent speed up. When I tell people I have to break sharply when I see a camera, the tell me I shouldn't be speeding in the first place! They don't even know what the road was like! If there's no-one directly in front of me, then I should be able to go as fast as my car can cope with. Anyone who is then too 'afraid' to cylce/walk/drive on roads should just take the bus and leave the lanes clear for the honest motorist.

From nid

I think that people are more likely to have an accident looking for the speed cameras or while constantly checking their speed in fear of getting caught speeding, rather than looking where they are going. I see police hiding in bushes, on bridges, where you can't see them until you have gone past them always catching motorists - how many of them come to your aid when you need them most? Speed cameras near schools are a great idea, but agree that motorway limits should rise to 80-90mph.

From Ken Gillam

Why does everyone complain about being caught by speed cameras, the simple solution is to keep to the speed limits. I agree some limits are too low in certain places, but by and large OK. I recall one experiment that by reducing speed the actual journey time was improved. The best answer is to drive sensibly.

From BEA utiful

speed cameras are just another way of sapping money from the all ready tax paying public, to accomodate our etinic cousins,,, get em ripped out, send the cu*ts on a boat home!

From michael campbell

i think that the number of speed cameras on uk roads is ridiculus and the government should invest OUR money on things like hospitals etc. i also think that they should be made more visible in order that motorists know that they are being watched and will drive safely. personally i reckon itd be best to blow the fuckers up

From gary

traffic lights

From J Beeston

I think they are revenue generators....I like the Spanish idea...that would work. The Police should concerntrate on drunk drivers.

From Trevor M Gardener

Revenue from Speed Cameras should be applied to improving roads and public transport and nothing else, otherwise it becomes just another method of raising revenue for the bandits in local government and the Police and has little effect in preventing road deaths and injuries. Do they think we are all stupid; on reflection yes I believe they do.

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they put them in intersections to get really cool pictures of people getting killed

From jim

i'v drove passed a speed camera at a speed of 158mph and not got caught.

From Jimmy Joe Bob

Ther are just another way to get money

From anon

THEY SHOULD ONLY POINT THEM AT THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE!

From anon

My brother in law is a policeman and he freely admits that speed cameras are 90% easy money and 10% safety.

From anon

From anon

NECCESSARY EVIL TO SLOW DOWN THE 'BOY RACERS' OF THIS WORLD

From anon

safety aid

From anon

It stinks of fascism and big brother tactics.

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austin healey

From anon

I think that 'speed' cameras not 'safety' cameras are a money making scam. I agree with the cameras on genuine accident spots and boy racer roads not your average A road or carriage ways. Its a way for the government to use less traffic policemen and women saving them money plus the rediculous amount the government takes in fines from the cameras. You never see cameras in residential Zones where the speed limits are 20MPH where i see hundreds of people speeding needlessly. Why?? Statistics say that they dont reduce the amount of accidents on the roads. I rest my case. - Lee - Lichfield.

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From anon

COMPLETE RIP OFF

From anon

As a safety aid speed cameras are counter productive because drivers have to continualy divert their attention from looking our for road hazards to looking out for the dreaded orange boxes. The flashes from the cameras often distract drivers and cause them to hit the brakes which can be a leathal cause of rear end collisions. Fear of the cameras cause drivers to much attention to the speedonmitor instead of looking out for crazy pedestrians and cycleist who have no idea of the highway code. As a money grabbing alternative tax. Speed cameras are very efficient because the motorist is denyed access to the full evidence unless he is prepared to waste his time going to court. Therefore most just pay up and bare the punishment without redress.

From anon

In a society governed by legalised gangster politicians and police who are out to screw the public for every hard earned penney they can get. One has to accept that would never get rid of such a money making tool as the speed camera. What I cant understand is, why give three penalty points as well as the rip off fine. Surely this is killing the goose that lays the golden egg.

From anon

money making racket for the police.

From anon

Speed cameras are for the idiots who dont know when they are speeding. The cameras saves them looking at there speedometer. We should have more inbuild up areas.

From anon

From anon

money maker

From anon

only slow vehicles for the distance of the line markings and are not sited in accident blackspots. cameras are put up to raise revenue because as a paramedic i know where the serious and fatal accidents occur and they are not where the cameras are

From anon

stupid !!! just taking time up 4 no reason at all

From anon

main purpose is to make money safty is a secondary motive

From anon

From anon

money making. if they are for safty then why are none of them by schools.james

From anon

From anon

there are shit!

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From mark pitchford

im all in favour of slowing traffic down for saftey.but the speeds are set wrong.ive been driving 25 years up until now never had any points never scratched a car never killed anyone.so why am i in 1 year banned from driving? tell you why because someone said im speeding at 36 mph in a 30 limit,same camera next day doing 38 mph bearing in mind this camera as not been switched on for years.half my license gone.i say they are safe speeds i should know 25 years never even scratched a car.then holiday in wales came.country lane camera hiding behind a tree got me 50 mph in a 40.there was no sheep to run over let alone children.then came the 2 bored cops decided to follow me through 3 villages then country lane again fired a laser at me half a mile away 61 mph in a 50.all averaged about 15 mph over speed limit.so for 25 years carefull driving ive been awarded 13 points,lost my job due to cant get there,and lost my house no money.when i get my license back mr insurance man is going to award me sky high premiums even though ive never claimed off him.so thank you very much britain.you really no how to treat your people.just 1 more thing the cops,the judge,the mp"s that awarded me this misery have you ever gone just over the speed limit?(YES)

From anon

Speed cameras add unecessary danger they should be replaced with genuine speed activated alert signs

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safety aid.

From anon

Money making in the guise of safety control. A big brother state where good drivers are punished because of bad drivers.

From anon

money making enterprise

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money makin, not only money but points,

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From anon

Making money of course.Dangerous driving is more hazdous than speeding however it requires resources to monitor. The police only have one purpose these days to protect the criminals and fine honest people for trivial violations.

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From paul

speed cameras are the most dangerous thingas i've ever encountered. i've lost track of the number of times when i've nearly rear ended someone because they've jamed on the brakes near a camera and thats even when they've within the speed limit. people panick when they spot them and it also means that drivers are watching the kerbs and undergrowth rather then concentrating on the road. it not help by this crazy policy of putting stupid 30mph and 40mph limits on empty straight roads.

From anon

From anon

MONEY MAKING

From anon

easy money for the govenment

From anon

they are amazing.......ly crap

From anon

cameras are a load of balshit and are money making lumps of metal

From anon

Well, they had a few on a stretch of the A1 because there were junctions causing traffic to cross the dual carriageway, said to prevent accidents, they have re done all the junctions as slip roads and an underpass and guess what they have actually removed the cameras, a first!!!

From anon

money making enterprise

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From anon

shit

From anon

i think speed cameras are dangerous, everytime i see a speed camera sign i take my eyes off the road and just watch my speed, god help a poor child if he walks out in front of me because i wont see him untill its to late. since the intrduction of speed cameras my driving skills have been a lot worse

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money making enterprise?

From anon

Having been caught twice in the space of a week 40 and 35 in a 30 (too fast I know)and seeing drink drivers get away with similar fines these cameras are a joke and a police funding exercise. I pay enough tax. Also insurance companies are now coining it in. Police fine £120 insurance fine £110. You get hit both ways irrespective of never having made a motor claim. Dropping points relating to actual speed would be a start, abolishing would be a good finish.

From anon

Idiots that speed are taking a risk, I speed and I hope I will never hit anyone else. They should have them in places like schools and anyone that speeds around a school is insta-ban. Alot of people crash due to roadrage because "the guy infront can't drive to save his life" so they get angry and take risks and speed. Blind rage. A good counter measure would possibly be to run adverts so people know what a NSL sign looks like and that it means 60 and not 40. Far too often I find myself longing for (which makes me anoyed) a 50 zone simply because the person infront will go 10 miles an hour faster (they've been doing 40 in a 60 zone) Another good example of this is approach speed to roundabouts and approach speed to NSL A roads and motorways, if you get the right speed you can slot straight in to the gaps rather than having to start from 0 MPH. Naturally I think I'm the best driver in the world, but there you go, but I am sure I heard somewhere that you should get on the road safely, drive safely but do the speed limit (conditions allowing) and get off the road to reduce congestion. Tangent or what. Submit this mail to the guy who handles transport for the UK, cheers =)

From anon

From anon

money making

From anon

From anon

Money maker, although i do keep to the speed limit, cameras do not catch bad/unlicenced drivers. I now have a radar detector.

From anon

if they were for safety they would be on side streets were the kids play and most schools are not on dual carriage ways and trunk roads

From anon

From anon

money making enterprise

From anon

rent a car in Malaga

From anon

Money making enterprise. I can see more accidents occuring because of them in that people suddenly brake hard and go well below the speed limit.

From anon

From anon

generally they are a money making device. The police bill them as "safety cameras" and I reckon the average policeman would have the same belief. If it is a genuine safety aid then the revenue from the speedsters should go to a charity and then I would be convinced.

From anon

A revenue raising racket.

From anon

Just another invasion of privacy and abuse of public funds to satisfy a minority. The real numbers do not support the claims of the speed reduction brigade - speed is only a contibuting factor in a very small percentage of accidents.

From anon

just another back-door tax

From anon

rip off

From anon

money making

From anon

money making as u slowdown wen ur near a speed camera then speed up there worthless

From anon

money making enterprise

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c230k

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money making enterprise

From anon

it's just another way for d gov. to make + money but d problem is that we r not seeing what things they r spending d money.

From anon

i tink they r a discrace hoe many there are there was 10 on a 6 mile strech

From anon

Good for cities, schools and any area where pedestrians are at risk. Country roads are in another category. Speed limits need a review with the object of setting appropriate speed limits for todays traffic. Untill this is achieved speed cameras act as a money spinner and a method of antagonising the otherwise law abiding motorist.

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From Phil

Dont mind them - they should be out-side schools, parks, hospitals, etc but not on the motorway! That is just pure greed! I used to reverse into cameras with my car transporter! Woops! Of course it was by accident and it was reported!

From anon

Ideal Funds Generator for new Uniforms Replacement Cars and the all important Christmas Party!

From anon

i thing speed cameras are good because to much people drive fast and cause accidents

From anon

Stupid people, think about it!! How could it be a safety aid, when as soon as you pass a speeding camera, your cgoing to increase your speed by at least 20mph. Its definently a money making enterprise. It's not for safety just like stop and search of young black males is not for safety it's all mixed up in this country all mixed up!

From anon

From anon

money making enterprise

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aston marten

From anon

A revenue raising exercise by the police, in most cases.

From anon

From anon

One of the few devices that may make motorists obey the law, slow down and hopefully reduce accidents!

From anon

money makers

From anon

Absolute tit long live the camera detedtors

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peterborough

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money makers !!!

From anon

They are simply there for money. There are so many ways that safety could be addressed, driver training, better road layouts, more police on the roads, better signage, cameras do nothing in fact they lead to erratic driving in their vicinty and a paranoid driving style at the expense of road awareness. They are accidnet promoters I have seen accidents at their sites caused by people braking too quickly. One near me in the west country is at the bottom of a 6% 2 mile downhill dual carriage way. There are jack knifed caravans to view each summer due to panic braking. The Government wants to be seen doing something noble and allow it to make money, which is the only true force at work.

From anon

If we stuck to the speed limits, it wouldn't be an issue.

From anon

There should be no issue. If people WERE going the speed limit then the Police would not make any money. I must be one of the few that actually travel at the speed limit and never have to worry about slowing for speed camera's. Whats the rush anyhow?

From anon

How many people complaining about speed cameras on this message board have actually had their child killed or knocked down by a speeding motorist? I'm sure that if they did they'd soon change their mind.....

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with the amount of camers's in my area i know there not there for saftey reasons, there is deaths in this area almost weekly and they are not in the areas that have cameras in place. the fixed and even mobile units only stick to main juntions in and out of city so they can make cash pure and simple. M Cairns, Aberdeen.

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Money making exercise

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i hate them, whoeva made dem can go suk out.....

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Money maker, if the authorities were truely interested in safety and speed reduction in sensitive areas and reducing accidents. There is a radio system available that connects to the cars cruise control, which can be fitted to any vehicle(vehicles now all have sophisticated electronics and ECUs). the system has been trialed in sweden. this system automatically reduces your speed, but only in the sensitive zone( it controls the throttle setting) to an acceptable figure for the environment being travelled through (IE near schools, play areas, residential zones). you are probably driving safer as well, you have not got one eye glued to the speedometer, and the other scanning the verge for yellow boxes that flash or stripey vans with additional strange windows, (complete with lenses) fitted. But hang on a minute if all the drivers are automatically below the limit how will the authorities collect the extra revenue ( I read one camera earned 6.5 million pounds),and how would they redeploy the additional police capacity it would create (lets face it the streets of little britain's city's are so safe! and dont need additional policing, I dont think so) HGV's and buses etc have had it for years( speed limiters) and they dont seem to mind, then again you still see plenty of artics & coaches stuffed on the motorway! is speed the main factor or is it fatigue? do German unrestricted autobahns have more accidents? Or is it the human factor? if we were all to drive at 5mph everywhere I suppose people would still bump into each other, and Lucky the dog driver in the people carrier (More Than insurance advert) is not much better. Safe driving ( big brothers watching allways) The Cruiser

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From anon

Roadside robbery units-so-called "Safety camera partnerships" were set up by Prescott in 2000.Hundreds of thousands of safe drivers are being fined and losing their licences.Yet in the face of this draconian crackdown on "speed" our road casualty figures have stopped the year on year decline which was the case before this idiocy-in some areas they are rising.Typicaldisaster by this greedy anti-car regime-Remember who is responsible and punish Anthony B'liar at the election!

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Gordan Brown must be rubbing his hands with glee ! regards Trev

From anon

money making enterprise for sure.

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Essential service to stop dangerous speeding

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From anon

waste of time money making scheme

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Punishment for not following speed limits!!!

From anon

Definetly money making. I agree with the use of cameras in busy built up areas especially schools. But long open roads??? And is'nt it good of our nanny state to quietly change the laws on placement. They can now be within 15 miles of an accident blackspot whilst before it was a mere 5 miles, and lets not forget that they are now trying to ban Road Angels and other camera detectors.

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I love speed cameras especially the thumping noise they make when i saw the bloody things in half. and I aint joking????

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dont you mean the slow down for 20 yards then speed-up cameras, its the mobile ones that do the trick as you cannot acount for where or when the cameras are. Is it not time that the speed limits are reassesed as the limits in place are dateing back to the days when the top speed and brakeing of cars was painfully slow by todays standards. if no one got caught on the speed cameras will the cost of running them make them redundant??. some-one is makeing a lot of money out of this.ps driver for 40 years and not been caught for speeding, (yet!).Mr Madmondei Driver.

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Can't law enforcement turn its back for one minute? Please! And are we then to be subject to a set of machines that are probably so inaccurate, so prone to error - I think it becomes a question of justice, and not one not of safety. But to answer the question in the terms in which it was given, money-making enterprise. Definately.

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money making, with very little to do with driver education and road safety, can cause accidents in some cases

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money making enterprise. Its got nothing to do with safety.

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I think they r a good idea

From anon

THere good because they slow down weird people who are drunk hahahahaha

From anon

the biggest piss take ever. just there to make money to be wasted on government owned departments

From anon

mostly a money making racket, which does little to improve road safety

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my view about speed cameras is it doe`s slow cars down but it is there to make money and that what is all about

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From naz

they should fine not give points thats whats so annoying

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From Lizzy

I still think that speed is a contributing factor to so many road accidents each year, think of yourselves, your cars (apparently so important) and also the children. Isn't it better to be safe than sorry?

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From Andrew

I have no problem with cameras located near to schools, known accident black spots or residential areas, but cameras on straight A roads and motorways are just 'cash cows' for the government. Police should clamp down on crappy drivers who pull in or out without indicating, tailgaters and members of the middle lane owner's club. I see them everyday on the A14/M11.

From Captain Gatso

I picked up around half a dozen seeepding tickets last year...just got the licene back...I guess they want to programme us permanently with abayance to 'the law'...which 'sound' anti car legisation or otherwise is, as many know, anti freedom at a very deep and sisturbing level. At 3 in the morning

From Captain Gatso

I picked up around half a dozen seeeping tickets last year or so...just got the licene back...I guess they want to programme us permanently with abayance to 'the law'...which 'sound' anti car legisation or otherwise is, as many know, anti freedom at a very deep and disturbing level. At 3 in the morning IT IS OK to drive at 40 miles an hour on the A5 for goodness sake. North Wales police are great at the 'mind control'...they have camera warning signs up all over the place where there are in fact no cameras. They want us programmed as I said. What about Jah guidance? Oh never mind I can see I wasting my breath. Blessings.

From Captain Gatso

Lizzy, programming by a police state with the collaboration of half witted middle class environmentalists is not going to improve child saftey. BELEIVE YOU ME. I speak as a front line 'eco warrior. I KNOW what I'm talking about'. Blessed be. Just share.

From Captain Gatso

The raisning money thing is a red herring, the money is peanuts. JHA GUIDANCE and not police state mind control please ^&**%$$ assholes. Thanks, Peace Out.

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From mr w

cameras are a way of catching you when you least exspect it. There designed for the purpose of getting money from you its rediculus theve caused more accidents because every driver is looking at there speedometer they should be banned from the uk pemenantly.

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From Brimaurg

By and large the usual set of ridiculous comments that you'd expect from a nation of anarchistic motorists. 3500 people die on the roads every year and if that happened in any other field of life we would be insisting that rules and regulations were tightened and strictly obeyed. Yet with motoring somehow people feel that they have a right to make their own judgements about which rules are important and which aren't. The word accident is a nonsense - The vast majority of collisions are caused by one or more drivers not doing the right thing at the same time in the same place. Speed is only a part of it but when you add the fact that nearly all drivers don't drive at the correct speed to the fact that very few drivers keep anything like an adequate space between themselves and the car in front, very few drivers know how to position their car correctly, very few drivers signal correctly, very few see more than 50% of the relevant things happening around them and the vast majority think about driving in terms of their own selfish needs and pleasures then you have 3500 deaths in 'accidents'. Just a few of the ridiculous points made are - 'They cause accidents because everybody's looking at their speedo' - Anyone who drives consistently at correct speeds should be able to recognise 30, 40, 50 ,60 and 70 without even having to consult the speedo. The fact that they can't just demonstrates that being conscious of speed is a new experience for them. 'Police should be chasing real criminals' - What can I say. Even the Yorkshire Ripper didn't manage to kill 3500 a year! and if that death rate isn't criminal I don't know what is. 'The Police hide them' - Yes but they don't hide the speed limit signs and they are, mostly, white with a red circle around; Quite easy to see really and whilst on this subject I presume that all of those people who made this comment are expecting that, when an old man or child wanders into the road or when someone falls off their bike or any of the million and one other things that cause 'accidents' there will be warning signs well ahead of this (not that drivers would see them as they obviously don't see speed limit signs) and that the poor unfortunate imminent victim will be painted in yellow and black stripes. 'They're dangerous because everybody slows down when they see them' - What a wonderful demonstration of the mentality of the motorist! Before you ask - Yes I am a motorist and I'm on the road all day everyday in all types of vehicle and yes I do practice what I preach. Speed cameras never bother me - Why should they?

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From big dave

welcome to the 21st centry! im a mechanic and i know there is a system that uses sat nav to alter the suspension on the new land rovers to suit where your driving. most modern cars have there speed limited to an amount too(bmws are 155mph). if the goverment where that bothered about speed limits they would force manufactures to combine the technologys to ensure that we cant speed. it is all good having speed limits but no one sticks to them (weather deliberatly or not is another matter) speed cameras are a revenue making source. they do not care about peoples health and safty or else they would use a system where you can not break the law. the main point is if they did make it so you cant speed they would get no money from the cameras so they would increase taxes else where. with that in mind i would prefere the cameras stayed. i would buy a speed camera warning device(like road angel) enjoy lower taxes and sit back and watch others getting flashed knowing that they are funding our great country on my behalf

From Andy Hughes

Speed cameras used the way the are, are a loads of b****Ks. One road I use frequently has 4 cameras in the space of 5 miles. Everytime I use this stretch of road it is congested due to the concertina effect of motorists slamming on their brakes just before the cameras and then booting it again until the next one. The worst thing is.... its virtually a straight bit of road!! Of course you are going to get people creeping over the limit. I had never known of an accident on this section of road before the cameras but I have seen several since their installation making the figures appear correct to the authorities, regardless that it is caused by the cameras (and of course the motorist who isn`t suspecting an emergency brake from the person in front!) I say only use speed cameras where accident blackspots are proven, not just anywhere the authorities feel they will catch the most motorists (and the most revenue).

From Amy

Traps. I think that as long as you know what you are doing, speeding is fine. Cameras are a good idea I suppose, but there should be another test that proves if the driver and his/her vehicle are able to drive that fast and keep the vehicle on the road kind of thing. Police should work harder to catch real criminals rather than unwary, but really good drivers that just happened to be speeding.

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From Daniel Docherty

The cameras are just there to get an easy bit of cash for the government and thats it. There are aot of cameras arounfd where I live and none at an accident black spot but where accidents do happen nothing is there.

From Tony

As a driver covering some 40,000 per year. I have to say that they are basically money making not safety, this is especially for mobile 'highway robber' cameras. Which park on motorway bridges and hide in laybys. These are clearly money raising. SPEED DOES NOT KILL, ITS INAPPROPRIATE SPEED THAT KILLS. We have some of the safest roads and exploit the motorist. By the way I do not have any speeding points!!!!

From jay

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From Steve

These things cause allot of 'Stamp breaking' which can cause more accidents than reduce..

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Money making of course. When was the last time you saw a camera on a "dangerous" piece of road?

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Speed Cameras only register cars exceeding the spped limit in zones where there have been fatal accidents within a kilometre in the past three years ! DONT EXCEED THE SPEED LIMIT and you will never get a ticket; dont break the law and you wont have to whinge.

From julian

all of you should seriously stop complaining. How stupid are you that you think speed cameras are there to catch you out. You see, i found a trick to getting past them... driving within the speed limit. maybe if you didn't speed in the first place then you wouldn't need to be on the watch for hidden speed cameras. The police aren't trapping innocent bystanders, they are punishing selfish people like yourselves who see it necessary to speed, putting others in danger, and then blaming police for catching you!? have a whinge

From Bob Bagley

Raising money from speed cameras is the easy option disguised as being a sfety issue,don't you just get hacked off with people who either don't indicate at roundabouts or junctions or do so at the last minute.How many people have you seen lately with defective or mis-aligned lights.Or what appears to be the current trend for crossing against orange traffic lights to save a zillionth of a hour.With speed cameras it's easy for the police,after all,if burglers had their identity clearly displayed on their chest and back perhaps the police might even turn up to investigate.No unfortunately we are stuck with these expensive revenue collectors,but do they actually improve driving standards and therefore road safety,I think not.

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From	Andy
	Just another pocket dipper, the police should chase the real criminals instead of harassing motorists

From	Steve Wilkins
	How come weve gone soft on crime and hard on motorists, if the police spent a bit less time harassing motorists they may find time to solve some real cases. When my car was stolen they turned up hours later ,never manage to find it, and showed total apathy for my situation, yet if I speed they are all over me like a rash.

From	Nick
	Sure they calm traffic...to the extent that when people see them,they slow to a crawl.This is a way to calm traffic? I think they are an easy way for the government to generate revenue.Fuel,tax and insurance are already high, so they add another one.

From	Jokester
	What's got 4 legs and a ct on its back? A police horse

From	Assad
	I think speed camera dont save lives ... they are just there to make money for the mega taxing govenment!

From
	Speed cameras tick me off!! I can uderstand their use around crowded town centers, and I would welcome tighter speed limits in built up areas, but I also think that larger roads and motorways are much too slow. I would welcome more 20Mph limits around town, but only in exchange for faster roads out of town - motorway limits should be raised to 80 Mph, maybe even 90!!

From	eric
	on a trip from marple to ashbourne via macclesfield and leek I counted 22 cameras but only one flashed me hence £40.00 fine not funny yet another 3 points not funny its like a game of trying to spot the birdie in that little lens

From	K Jones
	Speed cameras dont slow people down in the long run, i my self drive fast toward them, then slow down to go past, then accelerate away. doesnt help does it?

From	andy
	why are they hiding them behind trees, signs, bridges, walls?

From	abdullah
	ok, i agree with the speed restrictions, but why allow manufacuturers to build cars that do 140mph. government aswell as manufacutures are aiming to make money any way possibleby i)making high performance cars, with extra petrol cost, insurance, road tax etc, and ii)set up systems for speeding, not wearing seatbelts etc.

From	Phil
	Speed cameras are there to stop accidents! Not there to catch the motorist out!

From	Steve
	Just a way of making money !!! They are hidden behind trees, lamp posts and signs. If they were meant as a deterent they would be painted yellow and red and be sign writen with the words speed camera plastered all over them.

From	Jas
	Speed cameras are a load of B***ocks. Just think, that we can all get nicked for doing 80 MPH in a straight line on a motorway, yet not get fined / points for doing 30 MPH past a busy school at 3:30 PM in a built up area. Now ask yourself, which is the more dangerous?.

From	Tyler Durden
	I don't think they should have speed cameras at all. They should have had a national vote of all the motorists in the country before they put them up. If they do put them up they should be visible and not as a source for revenue. I am sure the government would be able to find alternate sources of revenue if they just sat down and actually thought about it.

From	Graham
	Don't you dare critisize this government. After all you voted for the morons. You deserve all you get. You had your chance to get shut but no you voted overwhelmingly for them and then complain because of what they are doing. You sad sad people.

From	AL
	Speed Cameras are a waste of time. It just makes motorists look out of their windows to try and spot them and the rozzers, taking their attention away from the road and traffic ahead.

From	Brian Moss
	Anything that can be used to slow down the uncaring driver (speeding in most cases) should be used if you do not want to be caught speeding - do not speed. Usually the driver who speeds past me at the traffic lights/roundabout on the west of town, is only a second or so ahead of me 5-6 miles on the other side of town

From	Joe Public
	I welcome all traffic calmin measure that save lives, if motorists would just stick to the speed limits then the government would not need to install cameras. Although, I think that the revenue created by cameras should go to the cost of safety measures on the road and medical healthcare for those injured in road accidents.

From	Phil Humphries
	cameras seem to be popping up everywhere, and with the introduction of digital cameras it seems like the police have just found a licence to print money. i would prefer better road markings and signs indicating areas/sections of road which are/can be dangerous to the driver and/or other road users.. granted cameras in 30mph limits around schools etc, but on main roads and motorways is scandalous.

From	Nick Read
	Speed cameras on the A1 have actually created more of an accident risk. Everyone seems to travel at approx 80-90 mph, then slam on their brakes and slow to about 60 mph whenever they see a camera !

From	Nico Pancheri
	Speed does'nt kill, incompetence kills. Most people i have seen sticking dead on the speed limit seem more interested in what is happening in the surrounding scenery, not the road ahead.

From	kid rock
	there's one on bayswater road without a speed limit on the road, and no camera sign

From
	statistics show that if you can reduce speed to zero Mph then accidents drop to almost zero per annum, but that defeats the object! A similar effect occurs if children and adults do not stand on the road . Cameras are not the answer, they cause drivers agravation .I am 53yrs old drive daily and consider myself lucky to have a clean license .

From	martin
	statistics show that if you can reduce speed to zero Mph then accidents drop to almost zero per annum, but that defeats the object! A similar effect occurs if children and adults do not stand on the road . Cameras are not the answer, they cause drivers agravation .I am 53yrs old drive daily and consider myself lucky to have a clean license .

From	Assad Sarwar
	Speed Cameras are just out there to make money out of the motorist. Yes I agree that speed cameras do save lives.

From	Big Jim
	If speed kills how come all the train operators are planning new high speed services, and how come our slow old things keep crashing.

From	Richard Dixon
	I am firmly of the view that speed is a major causation factor in accidents. TRL 421 shows that a small increase in speed leads to a significantly higher number of accidents. These findings were validated by the results of pilot projects in eight areas which showed that the visible presence of cameras led to 35% fewer accidents.

From	Mike Hunt
	Who are you working for Richard Dixon and how much are they paying you????

From	Hugh Jass
	Where did you get that name from Mike!! bit unfortunate isnt it?? KILL SPEED KILL SPEED KILL SPEED

From	Tim
	Check out your name Hugh!! Speed is dangerous, care is needed, why do we have such powerful cars?? Maybe we should all be driving Ford KA's!!